Past Episodes

222: Hrishikesh Hirway (The One AM Radio, Song Exploder, etc.)

By any external measure, Hrishikesh Hirway is an incredibly successful polymath; but boy, is he ever hard on himself. Or perhaps his success is due—at least in part—to the fact he is so hard on himself…you be the judge! Hrishi tells Joe about: growing up in Massachusetts; the challenges posed by the American pop culture’s…

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BNS: Bill Bruford Revisited

We’re moving Trap Set Headquarters! This week, we’re revisiting our conversation with the incomparable Bill Bruford. Bill happens to be a favorite drummer of last week’s guest, Danny Carey, who spoke of Bill with loving derision during his episode. See you next week!

221:Danny Carey (Tool, Green Jello, Carol King, Zaum, etc.)

Danny Carey is the rare artist with a wildly ambitious imagination, coupled with the virtuosic ability to manifest his singular ideas. Joe joined Danny at his Hollywood studio for one of our loosest, most freewheeling episodes yet! Danny talks about: growing up in Kansas City; his love of basketball; how his Midwestern work ethic helped…

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220: Billy Brimblecom (The START, Blackpool Lights, Steps of Faith Foundation)

Billy Brimblecom plays drums with an emphatic crispness, that has made him a valued member of his native Kansas City music scene since the 90s. After achieving many of his childhood musical dreams, Billy was forced to reexamine his priorities when his leg was amputated due to cancer. Although he is still a working drummer,…

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219: Joey Armstrong (SWMRS)

Joey Armstrong co-founded SWMRS when he was still in grade school, and at the age of 24, he already has decades of musical experience. Joey talks about: the benefits of hailing from a well known musical family; working to develop his own musical identity; how School of Rock changed his life; sustaining a band with…

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BNS: Carla Azar Revisited

This week, we’re renovating Trap Set HQ; so we’re sharing one of our favorite episodes, featuring the great Carla Azar. This episode was recorded a few years ago. Carla is currently busy with several projects, including a new Autolux album. We’ll return in August with some of our most intense episodes to date!

218: Steven McDonald (Redd Kross, Melvins, Off!)

When he was eleven years old, Steven McDonald co-founded a band with his older brother, Jeff. That band, which soon became known as Redd Kross, became a fixture on the late 70s LA punk scene and–remarkably–is still active today. Steven tells Joe about: precociousness; opening for Black Flag at an eighth grade graduation party; the…

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217: J. Robbins (Jawbox, Burning Airlines, GI, Channels, Office of Future Plans, etc.)

As a member of influential bands such as Jawbox, Burning Airlines, and Channels, J. Robbins exhibits an exceptional gift for unorthodox yet unforgettable vocal melodies counterbalanced with jagged, angular guitar hooks. For over 20 years, he’s built a parallel career as an in-demand producer for artists such as: Faraquet, Braid, and The Promise Ring. This…

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216: Aaron Harris (Isis)

Aaron Harris comes from a family of ship builders. Although he broke from tradition to become a drummer, his drumming is finely crafted and architectural, evoking images of a sleek and efficient sea vessel. Aaron tells Joe about: music as an escape; leaving his hometown; working as a bike messenger and at Boston institution, Newbury…

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BNS: Sara Lund Revisited

This week, we’re taking off for the holiday; so we’re revisiting one of our favorite episodes, featuring the incomparable Sara Lund. Sara is still playing with Nocturnal Habits and Hungry Ghost. If you’re in Portland and you’d like to study with Sara, please hit up our friends at Revival Drum Shop.

215: Ray Barbee

Skateboarding and music have been forever intertwined. This week’s guest, Ray Barbee, while best known as a pioneering skateboarder, is also a serious musician. Ray tells Joe about: coming from a musical family; being consumed by skateboarding; going pro and sustaining a 30+ year career; his parallel passion for music and photography; and raising a…

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214: Jeff Parker (Tortoise, AACM, Solo Artist)

Jeff Parker—one of his generation’s preeminent guitarists—talks with Joe about: his aversion to formal education, despite having teachers as parents; attending Berklee; living in Chicago, “the creative music capital of the world”; Band Leader Syndrome; how environment affects art; and completing artistic works in the face of self-doubt.

213: Greg Anderson (Sunn O))))

Greg Anderson of Sunn O))) discusses the creation of the band’s massive sound; the evolution of the creative dynamic with his partner Stephen O’Malley; musical monogamy; collaborating with the legendary Scott Walker; running Southern Lord Records; and how being a father affects his relationship with music.

212: Hayden Menzies (Metz)

Hayden Menzies drums with a sense of controlled bombast; his beats are often as memorable as melodic hooks. He tells Joe about his musician parents; his tight relationship with his brothers; learning to navigate happiness; and balancing his work as a musician with his parallel career in visual art.

211: Mindee Jorgensen (Dale Crover Band, Dangerously Sleezy, ModPods)

Mindee Jorgensen experienced a devastating loss at an early age and found solace in music. She tells Joe about: growing up in Iowa; marching band; making lifelong friends through punk rock; leaving home at 17; moving to LA; “The Hot Box”, her weed-inspired podcast; and playing drums for one of her musical heroes, Dale Crover.

210: Mary Timony (Ex Hex, Helium, Autoclave, Wild Flag)

A consistently adventurous artist, Mary Timony inhabits the intersection of virtuosity and experimental abandon. Her diverse, decades-spanning body of work firmly establishes her as one of her generation’s preeminent songwriters and instrumentalists. She is also one of Joe’s closest friends. Mary tells Joe about: growing up in DC; becoming a musician in spite of her…

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209: Craig Wedren (Shudder to Think, Film Composer)

Craig Wedren is a Midwest native whose father owned a fast food chain. He spent some time in DC, fronting the influential band Shudder to Think, while developing a career as a film composer, eventually moving to LA. In many ways, Craig’s life has the most parallels to Joe’s of any Trap Set guest. Craig…

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208: Jay Bellerose (Sam Phillips, T Bone Burnett, Plant/Krauss, Paula Cole)

Over the past forty years, Jay Bellerose has earned a reputation for musical excellence and rarified artistic integrity. He tells Joe about: growing up in large family in Maine; losing his father at a young age; working as a baker; the importance of being musically selective; and why he likes living at a deliberate pace.

207: Aldous Harding

Over the course of three excellent albums, Aldous Harding has distinguished herself as an incredibly compelling songwriter with a singular voice. Aldous and Joe discuss: impermanence, inner voices, the significance of standing up, and achieving exceptional feats as an ordinary person.

BNS: Brian Blade Revisited

This week, we’re hard at work recording new episodes, so we’re sharing one of our all time favorite Trap Set conversations featuring the singular genius, Brian Blade.

206: Bardo Martinez (Chicano Batman, The Doves)

Best known as the lead singer for LA band, Chicano Batman, Bardo Martinez has recently embarked on a solo career. Joe spoke to Bardo last year in front of a live audience at Ace Hotel, Palm Springs.

BNS: Mimi Parker Revisited (Low)

This week, we revisit one of our favorite episodes, featuring the great Mimi Parker of Low.

205: Tucker Rule (Thursday)

For 20 years, Tucker Rule’s crisp, authoritative drumming has laid the foundation for the band Thursday. Tucker discusses: his childhood obsession with baseball; recording and touring shortly after learning to play; working with a boy band after Thursday went on hiatus; and why planking is an essential part of his daily workout routine.

204: Rod Argent and Colin Blunstone LIVE (The Zombies)

The Zombies are, simply put, the greatest band in the world. This week, the band’s co-founders Rod Argent and Colin Blunstone! The pair discuss: the formation of the band; why the group’s initial tenure was so brief; why Colin was never jealous that Rod made more money as a songwriter; a day job with Mr.…

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203: Ian Mackaye Pt. 2 (Minor Threat, Fugazi, The Evens, etc.)

This Week: Part Two of our conversation with Ian MacKaye. Four years ago, we began The Trap Set with Fugazi drummer Brendan Canty. As we expand the show from drummers-only to all musicians, it only makes sense to begin with Brendan’s bandmate, Ian.

202: Ian MacKaye Pt. 1 (Minor Threat, Fugazi, The Evens, etc.)

As a member of bands such as The Teen Idles, Minor Threat, Embrace, Fugazi, and The Evens—as well as co-founder of Dischord Records—Ian MacKaye has been involved in the creation and dissemination of an extraordinary amount of classic recordings. Ian met with Joe at The Dischord House in Virginia for a wide-ranging conversation that lasted…

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201: Brooks Headley (Born Against, Oldest, Universal Order of Armageddon, etc.)

Brooks Headley fell in love with music while listening to Dr. Demento on his grandmother’s radio. He’s also had a lifetime obsession with food, leading to a career working in–and eventually owning– restaurants. He talks to Joe about: having pragmatic dreams; being raised by an incredible, single mom; drumming for bands such as Universal Order…

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200: Episode 200 Spectacular!

To celebrate our 200th episode, past guest and friend of the show Patty Schemel returns, this time to interview Joe. They discuss how creating The Trap Set has affected the trajectory of Joe’s life, and Joe talks about changes in store for the future of the show. Then, he answers listener questions. Thanks to all…

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199: Larry Herweg (Pelican, INTRCPTR)

Larry Herweg’s commanding drumming has helped shaped Pelican’s dense, longform compositions for nearly 20 years. He tells Joe about: growing up in Illinois; being a late (musical) bloomer; how a bad experience turned him off from lessons; the challenges and rewards of playing in a band with his brother; working at Whole Foods; and escaping…

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BNS: John Good (Drum Workshop)

In this bonus episode, Joe talks to John Good, vice president of Drum Workshop.

198: Zach Lind (Jimmy Eat World)

For 25 years, Zach Lind has carved a creative niche within the often rigid parameters of modern rock. He talks about: manufacturing pressure to force the creative process along; growing up with a professional baseball player for a father; being raised in a Conservative Baptist environment, and ultimately leaving the church; “musical monogamy” with the…

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197: Mona Tavakoli (Raining Jane, Jason Mraz, Ebi)

Mona Tavakoli is a modern polymath whose impressive versatility and fierce creativity have resulted in a 20 year tenure in Raining Jane, along with collaborations with artists such as Jason Mraz, Ebi, and Pat Benatar. She visited Trap Set HQ for a wide ranging conversation about: Strawberry Shortcake albums; a Tori Amos focus group; hanging…

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196: Budgie (The Slits, Siouxsie Sioux and The Banshees, The Creatures, John Grant, etc.)

Budgie has the rare ability to metabolize influences ranging from taiko to dub, from gamelan to punk to Indian classical, all into a singular, uniquely fiery artistic identity. His poetic sense of rhythm has graced recordings by a range of iconic artists, but he is perhaps known for his partnership with Siouxsie Sioux. Budgie tells…

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BNS: Steve Gadd Revisited

We’re closing out the year by revisiting a pensive conversation with one of the greatest drummers of all time, Steve Gadd. (This episode was recorded in 2015 and originally released in early 2016.) Thanks to all of you for making Trap Set a big success in 2018; here’s to 2019!

BNS: Bill Cardwell (C&C Drum Company)

This week, a fascinating bonus episode with Bill Cardwell–drum builder and co-founder of C&C Drum Company. Dozens of our guests have played Bill’s drums; get to know the deeply compelling person behind the instruments.

195: Bryan St. Pere (Hum)

Illinois band Hum created an expansive sound world, and Bryan St. Pere’s drumming is the beacon that guides the listener through thick fields of distortion. Bryan tells Joe about: his fascination with Bugs; loving Neil Peart so much that he used Pert Plus shampoo as a child; coming from a “family of struggle”; having a…

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194: Jason Gerken (Shiner, Molly McGuire, Season of Risk, Birth Defects, etc.)

Jason Gerken likes to party. He also has the unique ability to make unexpected musical choices sound natural and powerful. Jason tells Joe about: why his parents tried to prevent him from becoming a drummer; working with beloved KC bands Shiner and Molly McGuire; his day job managing a bar; a brush with death; learning…

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193: Nabil Ayers (The Lemons, The Long Winters, 4AD, Sonic Boom)

Nabil Ayers was born into a deeply musical family and began playing drums as a toddler. Eventually, he toured and recorded with bands such as The Lemons and The Long Winters, his experiences as a drummer serving as the foundation for what has become an impressively multifaceted career in the music business. Nabil tells Joe…

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192: Kevin Haskins (Bauhaus, Tones on Tail, Love and Rockets, etc.)

Kevin Haskins’s spare, hypnotic style laid the foundation for goth luminaries, Bauhaus. He tells Joe about: growing up in Northampton; seeing bands like The Who and Led Zeppelin; how the burgeoning punk scene gave him confidence to pursue music; playing the now-classic “Bela Lugosi’s Dead” for the first time; the sense of devastation he experienced…

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191: Aaron Sterling (John Mayer, Lana Del Rey, Taylor Swift, Liz Phair, etc.)

Aaron Sterling’s percussive prowess would have gotten him plenty of work during the golden age of the recording studio, but his attention to sonics and ability to self engineer make him a quintessential studio drummer for the modern paradigm. He discusses: overcoming social anxiety; working at California Pizza Kitchen; his largely unwavering musical confidence; how…

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190: Parker Kindred (Joan As Police Woman, Jeff Buckley, Amen Dunes, etc.)

Parker Kindred has a supernatural gift of musical intuition. His intensely imaginative, lyrical playing style imbues the music with a deep hypnotic subtlety. Joe joined Parker in his Williamsburg apartment to discuss: being “inside one’s body”; why identifying as a drummer makes him feel like a loser; working with artists such as Joan As Police…

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189: Rob Ellis (PJ Harvey, Marianne Faithfull, Bat for Lashes, Cold Specks, etc.)

Rob Ellis possesses the dynamic touch of a concert musician, the ferocity of a punk rocker, and the compositional sense of a New Music luminary; but it’s Rob’s extraordinary capacity for musical empathy that make him the perfect collaborator for iconic songwriters ranging from PJ Harvey to Marianne Faithfull. Rob tells Joe about his early…

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BNS: Rob Ellis on Addiction and Recovery

In this bonus mini-episode, Rob Ellis discusses his struggles with alcohol and the decision to become sober. Be sure to check out Rob’s introspectively intense full-length episode, also available this week.  

BNS: Steven Drozd Revisited

We’re hard at work on new episodes, so this week, we’re revisiting one of our favorite conversations with Steven Drozd of The Flaming Lips. Steven has a new podcast of his own called Sorcerer’s Orphan. See you next week!

188: Brendan Buckley (Shakira, Volumen Cero, JJ Lin, Teagan and Sara, etc.)

Brendan Buckley’s omnivorous musical taste, disciplined approach, and granular attention to detail make him well-suited for work with artists such as Tegan and Sara, Roberto Carlos, Volumen Cero, JJ Lin, and—for the last 20 years—Shakira. Brendan tells Joe about: growing up in New Jersey, his tiger mom, what it takes to play a choreographed pop…

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187: Bill Bruford (Yes, King Crimson, Earthworks, UK, Genesis, Bruford)

Bill Bruford’s instantly identifiable sound and brilliant sense of composition made him the defining drummer of the progressive rock movement; but at age 60, after four decades in the music business, Bill unceremoniously walked away. Bill tells Joe about: being a young jazz elitist; “leveraging himself sideways” from an upper-middle class family to the seedy…

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186: Rat Scabies (The Damned)

Rat Scabies and his influential band, The Damned, were integral members of the fledgling UK punk community. Rat’s controlled bombast earned him comparisons to Keith Moon and Mitch Mitchell. He and Joe met in Soho to discuss: Rat’s post-war childhood in the outskirts of London; his father’s job as an underground soft porn merchant; his…

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185: Fay Milton (Savages, 180dB)

A classically trained percussionist, Fay Milton possesses an adventurous compositional sense and keen sonic sensitivity that helped Savages become one of the most exciting, critically-lauded bands of the last decade. Fay and Joe met in Soho, London, to discuss: why there is hope in the darkness; the lack of surfer dudes in Australia; Savages; Fay’s…

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184: Mick “Woody” Woodmansey (David Bowie, Art Garfunkel, U-Boat, Holy Holy)

Woody Woodmansey propelled the legendary Spiders from Mars to international stardom and helped the post-war generation escape the prison of banality. Woody tells Joe about growing up in Northern England; his life as a plumber and factory worker; how fate led him to discover music; writing music and touring with David Bowie; craving uncertainty; living…

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BNS: Tessa Pollitt (The Slits)

In this Bonus Episode, The Slits bassist, Tessa Pollitt, sat down with Joe after a recent screening of “Here to Be Heard”, a documentary about the band.

183: Nate Wood (Kneebody, Four)

Nate Wood has a gift for mastery when it comes to the mechanics of music; but he also possesses a creative clarity that transcends mere virtuosity. He talks about growing up in a musical family; his theory of genetic determinism; his approach to learning instruments; and how his new project, Four, might provide salvation when…

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182: Ryan Pope (The Get Up Kids)

Ryan Pope’s metronomical groove and uniquely memorable beats helped The Get Up Kids become one of the most influential rock bands to emerge from the Midwest during the 1990s. Ryan tells Joe about: his incredibly close relationship with his brother/bandmate Rob; growing up Mormon and losing his faith; re-defining himself when the band ended its…

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181: Alan Cage (Quicksand, Seaweed)

Formed in 1990 in New York City, Quicksand drew inspiration from the energy of their native hardcore scene. Powered by drummer Alan Cage’s dexterous groove, the band’s angular compositions ushered in an influential new strain of heavy music. Alan tells Joe about: growing up as a mildly mischievous kid on Long Island; the formation and…

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180: Adam Topol (Jack Johnson, Culver City Dub Collective, etc.)

Adam Topol’s formative years were spent listening to Kiss and punk rock, but he soon discovered a lifelong passion for jazz and world music that influenced his diverse career. He tells Joe about growing up in Lake Tahoe; his self-taught entrepreneur father; why art and academia feel at odds; why he never thought that he…

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179: Matt Helders (The Arctic Monkeys, Iggy Pop)

The Arctic Monkeys started out as more of an aspiration than an actual band–its members were teenagers who had just started playing their instruments. But–after gaining some online notoriety–the band was catapulted to massive popularity, releasing a string of number one albums in their native UK. Matt Helders talks to Joe about: growing up in…

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178: Geoff Mann and Marcos Garcia (Here Lies Man, Antibalas)

On this episode of The Trap Set Live, Joe sits down with Chico Mann and Geoff Mann to discuss: musical parents (Geoff’s father being the legendary Herbie Mann); early influences; the first records they purchased with their own money; their tenure with Antibalas; the genesis of their current band Here Lies Man–which combines Afrobeat-inspired rhythm…

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177: Lucky Lehrer (Circle Jerks)

Lucky Lehrer’s ferocious and agile style helped Circle Jerks become standard bearers of the nascent SoCal hardcore scene. He tells Joe about growing up in LA, his love of jazz, studying at UC-Berkeley, discovering punk, and his current creative focus–improvised comedy.

176: Dean “Clean” Sabatino (The Dead Milkmen, I Think Like Midnight)

Formed in Philadelphia in 1983, The Dead Milkmen created a downright hillarious sonic universe that stood in stark contrast to their hardcore punk contemporaries. But it’s a genuine, heartfelt emotional core that makes the band’s classic body of work stand the test of time. Drummer Dean “Clean” Sabatino charts his journey from local hero, to…

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BNS: Dale Crover Returns!

The incredible Dale Crover (Melvins) graced The Trap Set during our salad days (Episode 10). Today, he makes a triumphant return to update us on what he’s been up for the past few years. A great chat with one of the most compelling and unique drummers out there!  

175: Tony Hajjar (At The Drive-In, Sparta, Gone is Gone)

Tony Hajjar’s explosive, emotionally-raw style propelled At The Drive-In to mainstream success. He tells Joe about emigrating to the US from Lebanon, losing both of his parents at an early age, his tight relationship with his brother, the band dynamic of ATDI, breaking up just after breaking into the mainstream, Sparta, staying in a psychological…

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174: Kate Schellenbach (Luscious Jackson, Beastie Boys)

Kate Schellenbach’s formative musical experience was in the choir at the Church of St. Luke in Greenwich Village; but soon enough, she was watching Clem Burke do lines at CBGB. Kate tells Joe about drumming for an early, punk-influenced version of The Beastie Boys; achieving popular success with Luscious Jackson; singing on Broadway as a…

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173: John “J.R.” Robinson (Rufus, Michael Jackson, Eric Clapton, Daft Punk, etc.)

John “J.R” Robinson has an extraordinary sense of time, a crisp tone, and a gift for developing rhythmic hooks. All of these attributes contribute to his status as one of the most in-demand session drummers of all time. Joe visited J.R. at his home to discuss: his childhood in Iowa; why his drum set was…

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172: Pete Moffett (Government Issue, Wool, Burning Airlines, Second Letter, etc.)

Pete Moffett cut his teeth in the DC punk scene, where he developed a signature style balancing angular inventiveness with oversized bombast. He talks to Joe about why he’s so hard on himself; transitioning from an ELO-heavy diet to punk rock; the ramifications of being a recovering alcoholic; coming out and meeting his partner of…

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171: Dave Elitch (Antemasque, Justin Timberlake, M83, Killer Be Killed)

Dave Elitch has the rare ability to deconstruct the craft of drumming on a granular level. This gift has led to a diversity gigs ranging from The Mars Volta to Justin Timberlake. Dave’s primary passion, though, is for teaching. At age 34, he’s taught a who’s-who of professional drummers, some of whom are twice Dave’s…

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BNS: Ezra Miller

In this bonus mini-episode, actor Ezra Miller (Justice League, Fantastic Beasts) talks about harnessing anxiety for creative endeavors, diarrhea, and Philip Glass. This is an excerpt from an upcoming episode about actors who are also drummers. Check out the debut album from Ezra’s band, Sons of an Illustrious Father, out now!

170: Brian Blade (Fellowship, Wayne Shorter, Joni Mitchell, etc.)

Brian Blade burst on the scene in the early 90s and has since distinguished himself as one of the all time greats. Brian met with Joe in Chicago to discuss: his musical beginnings in church; how he developed his gifts as an artist; what he learned from his older brother, drummer Brady Blade; working with…

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169: Brad Wilk (Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave, Prophets of Rage)

Rage Against the Machine is an exceptionally rare band that managed to combine a radical, populist message with massive popular success. At the core of the band is Brad Wilk’s drumming, which combines an explosive groove and hypnotic use of space. Brad visits The Trap Set to discuss: his formative love of Van Halen; Studying…

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168: Michael Shrieve (Santana, Go, Solo Artist)

In 1969, Michael Shrieve took the world by storm with his jaw-dropping performance at Woodstock. His raw power, combined with jazz-inflected finesse, was a crucial component to the band’s success. Over the subsequent 50 years, Michael’s adventurous body of work has comprised collaborations with: Stomu Yamashta, Steve Winwood, Al Di Meola, Klaus Schulze, Andy Summers,…

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167: Live from KEXP, Seattle

This week, we share Joe’s epic live panel with Matt Cameron (Soundgarden, Pearl Jam); Ruby Dunphy (Thunderpussy); Tendai Maraire (Shabazz Palaces); and Jason McGerr (Death Cab for Cutie). This episode was recorded in front of a capacity crowd at KEXP in Seattle.

166: Karriem Riggins (Ray Brown, Hank Jones, J Dilla, Common)

Karriem Riggins is a rare artist whose creative voice resonates in improvised music and popular music alike. Karriem spoke to Joe in front of a live audience at Ace Hotel in Palm Springs about: being born into a musical family in Detroit; his definition of greatness and mastery; working with established legends like Ray Brown…

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RIP: Remembering John “Jabo” Starks

Yesterday, John “Jabo” Starks–one of the most important drummers of the twentieth century–died of cancer. He was 79. In tribute, we’re revisiting Joe’s conversation with the legendary musician, originally recorded in Madison, WI, in 2015.

165: Barrett Martin (Screaming Trees, Barrett Martin Group, Mad Season, REM)

In the 80s and 90s, Barrett Martin was a member of seminal Seattle bands Screaming Trees, Mad Season, and Skin Yard; but according to Barrett, talking about his life as a rock drummer isn’t all that interesting. Instead, Barrett and Joe have a conversation about the perception of time, the feminine energy of the universe,…

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164: Adrienne Davies (Earth)

Adrienne Davies joined long-running Washington band Earth in 2001. She brought with her the requisite aptitude for slow tempos, and–over the course of several albums–developed a command of sonic nuance that perfectly complements and differentiates the band’s meditative compositions. Adrienne speaks to Joe about: growing up surrounded by brothers, stage fright, feelings of creative inadequacy,…

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163: Atom Willard (Against Me!, Rocket from the Crypt, Angels and Airwaves, The Offspring)

Atom Willard joined Rocket from the Crypt when he was still in high school. During his ten-year tenure with the band, he honed a unique style, balancing punk rawness and precision. Atom tells Joe about: his Catholic upbringing in San Diego; his early fascination with Kiss (who would soon be displaced by bands like Iron…

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162: Ralph Johnson (Earth Wind & Fire)

Ralph Johnson brought his disciplined, unstoppable groove to Earth Wind and Fire in 1973; and over the subsequent 45 years, he’s played an important role in EWF’s timeless legacy of excellence. Joe visited Ralph at his home in Woodland Hills, CA, for a wide-ranging conversation about: his musical parents, growing up in LA, the creative…

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161: Dan Bailey (Father John Misty)

Dan Bailey learned to play drums in church. By the time he was in his early twenties, he was the house drummer at one of the biggest churches in the US, and he was touring with top artists of Contemporary Christian Music. However, upon reaching this professional apex, he discovered that his personal beliefs were…

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160: Adam Carson (AFI)

Adam Carson co-founded AFI in 1991, when he was still in high school. Nearly 30 years later, the band is still going strong and has far surpassed its initial, punk rock ambitions. Adam visited Trap Set HQ and told Joe about: his drummer father; being a “bad student”; how he defines becoming “better” as an…

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BNS: Joey Castillo Answers Listener Questions

In this bonus mini-episode Joey Castillo answers listener questions about: recording techniques, his time with Scott Weiland, working out, and more! Want to hear Joey’s full episode and 160 other guests, all for free? Subscribe to The Trap Set on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, NPROne, or wherever you get your podcasts!

158: Stephanie Luke AKA Rusty Coathanger (The Coathangers)

Stephanie Luke grew up in a conservative, southern family, but she found her true tribe after discovering punk rock. She tells Joe about being a “nerdy” child, why she began playing drums in her mid 20s, how her band is central to her identity, the internal debate about whether to start a family, and why…

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157: Orpheo McCord (The Magnetic Zeros, Cass McCombs, The Fall)

Orpheo McCord stops by The Trap Set to tell Joe about: being raised by a Merry Prankster and a model; living without a game plan; the shortcomings of music school; his work with everyone from The Fall to Cass McCombs; and how parental responsibility is a both burden and a joy. Check out Orpheo’s new…

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156: Michael Stuart-Ware (Love, The Sons of Adam)

Although Love never became a household name like some of its contemporaries, the band is certainly one of the most innovative and influential rock bands of all time (and one of Joe’s favorites). Joe speaks to Michael Stuart about the 1960s LA rock scene; why he prefers not to listen to Love’s classic albums; how…

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155: Ronnie Vannucci Jr. (The Killers, Big Talk)

Ronnie Vannucci joins Joe for a discussion about his childhood in Las Vegas; the genesis of The Killers and how they’ve navigated band dynamics over nearly 20 years; how he regards himself as an artist; and–of course–existential dread.

154: The Trap Set Turns Three!

“So, it’s come to this,” as the Simpsons would say! This week for the third anniversary of the show, Joe is joined by co-producer, Chris Karwowski. The pair explores themes that have emerged over the course of 153 episodes: identity, addiction, struggle, parenthood, fear, and redemption. We listen back to conversations with: Mimi Parker, Mike…

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153: Abe Rounds (Meshell Ndegeocello, Seal, Doyle Bramhall, Andrew Bird)

Abe Rounds was born into a musical family in Sydney and began drumming at age one. Now 26, he has quickly become one of his generation’s most sought-after drummers. Abe tells Joe about his love of golf, his one-time gambling addiction, the demons of doubt, his interest in crypto currency, learning to write his own…

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152: Live in Minnesota (Eric Gravatt, Lori Barbero, Todd Trainer, Gordy Knudtson)

Joe sits down with four of The Twin Cities’ most captivating drummers. Gordy Knudtson and Todd Trainer describe their respective approaches to teaching; Lori Barbero articulates why she doesn’t believe in music education; and Eric Gravatt describes how he just “got it” at an early age and why he left a successful career in music…

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151: Chad Molter (Faraquet, Medications, Grass)

Chad Molter grew up playing bass, but he became picked up drums in a matter of months in order to co-found Faraquet, a DC-based band that merged proggy musical sophistication with the spirit of punk rock. Chad tells Joe about: yearning to leave his native Southern California; developing his self-taught, uniquely melodic style; hiking the…

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ML1: Laura Veirs + Carol Kaye (Beach Boys, Sonny and Cher, Frank Sinatra, etc.)

Over the past several months, Joe has been co-producing a new podcast hosted by Laura Veirs called Midnight Lightning. We’re excited to share the very first episode of that show, featuring Laura’s interview with the legendary bassist (and Joe’s bass teacher), Carol Kaye. The Trap Set returns with a stellar lineup of drummer conversations starting…

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BNS: Bernard Purdie Revisited

The Trap Set team is taking some time off to enjoy the holidays, so we’ve decided to share one of our very favorite early conversations with the inimitable Bernard Purdie. Originally aired two and a half years ago as two episodes, we’ve combined the conversation into one long episode for your enjoyment. For those of…

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BNS: Bill Ward Answers Listener Questions

In this bonus mini-episode, Bill Ward answers listener questions ranging from Black Sabbath to food.

150: Bill Ward (Black Sabbath, Day of Errors)

As a child in working-class Birmingham, the only career options presented to Bill Ward were working in a factory or enlisting in the military. Against all odds, he escaped that bleak destiny and co-founded the paradigm-shifting Black Sabbath. Bill tells Joe about his journey from choir boy to unhinged rock legend; the inner workings of…

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149: Bryan Devendorf (The National)

Despite a deceptively unassuming stage persona, Bryan Devendorf’s cleverly deconstructed beats are central to The National’s sonic identity. He tells Joe about: growing up in Cincinnati, straddling the worlds of punk rock and jam bands, parenthood, white privilege, self improvement, and the intimate relationships at the core of The National.

BNS: Billy Cobham (Mahavishnu Orchestra, Solo Artist)

This week, we’re hard at work on a new live episode and a special Episode 150, so here’s one of our favorite episodes, featuring the legendary Billy Cobham.

148: Aaron Steele (Chrome Sparks, Portugal The Man, Alice Smith)

Aaron Steele grew up in New York City, raised by two Panamanian immigrants who become pastors. His adventurous spirit, deep pocket, and attention to sonic detail make him one of the most exciting young artists on the scene. He tells Joe about: how Bill Withers was his “Beatles”; growing up a believer; becoming a skeptic;…

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147: Scott McPherson (Elliott Smith, M. Ward, Sense Field, etc.)

Scott McPherson’s seemingly effortless musicality has made him the drummer of choice for many of his generation’s greatest songwriters. He tells Joe about addiction and sobriety; working with artists ranging from Sense Field to Elliott Smith; creating his own company, Tackle Instrument; and the danger of getting what you wish for.

146: Dave King (The Bad Plus, Happy Apple)

Minnesota native, Dave King, grew up a voracious listener of seemingly disparate forms of music. This is reflected in his playing, which illuminates the through line between improvised music and punk. Dave and Joe discuss: getting pumped for high school wrestling by listening to Albert Ayler and Ornette; the band dynamics of the Bad Plus…

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145: Riley Breckenridge (Thrice, Less Art)

Riley Breckenridge dreamed of becoming a professional athlete, but after his prospects were cut short after an injury, he turned to drums. He achieved success with Thrice, a band that features his brother Eddie and their childhood friends from Orange County. Riley discusses the benefits and drawbacks about being intensely hard on himself; struggling to…

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144: Steven Drozd (The Flaming Lips)

Steven Drozd joined The Flaming Lips in 1991. His one of a kind drumming style fuses Bonhamesque bombast with a clever compositional sense reminiscent of Can’s Jaki Liebezeit; but his contributions to the band aren’t limited to drumming. Drozd plays most of the instruments on The Flaming Lips’ recordings and co-writes their songs. He tells…

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143: Jojo Mayer (Nerve)

Jojo Mayer visits The Trap Set and tells Joe about his childhood in Switzerland, artistic honesty, and pair discuss strategies for keeping existential dread at bay.

BNS: Fred Armisen on “For Drummers Only”

Fred Armisen stops by to discuss his new Netflix comedy special, “For Drummers Only”. The show is being filmed at the historic Great American Music Hall in San Francisco, this Thursday 10/19. Visit thetrapset.net for tickets.

142: Lia Simone Braswell

Raised in Los Angeles by a musician mother and punk rock dad, Lia Simone Braswell was playing with adults when she was still a child. She tells Joe about joining her best friend’s dad’s band, her commune-like tenure with Le Butcherettes, her fascination with linguistics, and overcoming personal tragedy.

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